Andra Kaleps, Business Partnerships Lead for Tangram, sits down with Erik Huberman, CEO and Co-Founder of Hawke Media, a full-service outsourced marketing company based in Santa Monica. In this episode, Andra and Erik discuss how Hawke Media actually grew during the pandemic, some of the amazingly innovative ideas their team has executed the last year and a half, and how Erik and his business partner's infamous apocalyptic jokes were not so funny in March of 2020. Plus, throughout this compelling conversation, Erik admits he was "wrong" in his mentality about remote work - disclosing that Hawke Media has gone from operating in four states to 34 states in the past year.